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EP#64: Transforming Careers with UGC: How Kylie Found Confidence, Balance, and Brand Success

• Kristen Werner & Mia Steel

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Welcome to a compelling episode where we delve into Kylie's journey from a rural graphic designer to a successful user-generated content (UGC) creator. Discover how embracing UGC brought newfound confidence and joy to her professional and personal life.

Key Highlights:

  • Career Transformation: Learn how Kylie transitioned from feeling burnt out in her freelance graphic design business to flourishing through UGC. After discovering our podcast on TikTok, she joined the Hive Hub Collective and expanded her skills to include web design, leveraging her artistic talents in new, profitable ways.
  • Embracing New Challenges: Explore the mindset shifts necessary when increasing social media visibility and aligning with brands that share your values. Kylie’s story illustrates the potential for self-discovery and personal growth through these professional developments.
  • Strategies for Success: Kylie discusses overcoming the initial hesitations of public exposure and how she mastered the art of content creation to establish rewarding brand partnerships. Learn how authenticity and alignment with personal values are key to her success.
  • Community and Mentorship: Discover the role of the supportive community within the Hive Hub Collective in Kylie’s transformation. This network has been instrumental in her journey, providing mentorship and support as she navigates the complexities of a UGC career.
  • Balancing Life and Work: Hear about Kylie’s approach to balancing professional commitments with family life, a challenge many women face when stepping into more demanding creative roles. Her story is an inspiration for those redefining their identities beyond traditional roles.
  • Future Aspirations: The episode wraps up with Kylie’s plans to inspire others through educational courses, emphasizing the transformative power of community, self-discovery, and user-generated content in achieving work-life harmony.

Whether you’re a budding creator or looking to inject new life into your work, Kylie’s journey offers valuable lessons and motivation.

Tune in now to learn how you can also transform your career and life through the strategic use of user-generated content.

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Speaker 1:

Well, talk about going from beginner to winner. Today on the podcast, we speak to Kylie. Now Kylie is one of our incredible members inside the Hive Hub Collective. She's talking about the fact of when she started this journey. She's a graphic designer. She lives in the country, so she's rural and she was looking for something else. And when she first joined us, she loved what we were about, but she hadn't really heard of UGC. Then, all of a sudden, she found out about it. She fell in love with it. We want you to sit back and enjoy this incredible discussion that we have with Kylie and how she found inner confidence and inner joy when it comes to creating UGC, user-generated content. Anyway, buckle in. You've got to hear this conversation.

Speaker 1:

I'm Mia, a mum of two, a former burnt-out ambo who sold it all to Travel Australia in her caravan and turned a single TikTok idea into a six-figure content creation business leveraging UGC. And I'm Kristen, also a mum of two, with over 15 years experience in branded marketing. I went from the corporate world to being made redundant and decided to back my idea of starting a branding business and a successful wedding venue side hustle generating six figures, all whilst living on the vineyard. One random DM between us sparked more than just a friendship. It ignited a passion to mentor women online around the world. We know what it takes to make it work online and we're here to show you what's possible. In less than 12 months, we built a six-figure membership together. And here's the kicker we have not met in person yet. That is a kicker. We're here to show you the power of reoccurring revenue and how achievable it really is. We don't sugarcoat things around here. We talk about the real shit, the good shit and the bullshit. So buckle up, let's go, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to the.

Speaker 1:

I am dot dot dot podcast, the podcast for busy mums who want to consume useful shit for their biz and their life. I'm Kristen Werner, joined as always by mia, and we have a special guest today. But what's up, ma'am, we do, yes, very excited having one of our members in for a lovely chat about her journey. The one and only kylie. How are you going, kylie?

Speaker 2:

I'm well. Thank you, this is so exciting. This is I think I've um been on, think I've been on. I've been listening to the podcast since like day dot, since like first episode. So, yeah, amazing awesome.

Speaker 1:

You've had an adventure since then and we want to hear about your journey this far, because you started UGC and actually I remember our first conversation that we had there was a one-on-one conversation and you were kind of starting well, not starting, but you were just getting your feet with what to do next. So maybe if we can kind of go back there, because it's really nice to understand, I think what we love about UGC and what we want to share with people is that at any point you can turn to this skillset to bring you more income, to add value to your business, to show you how to become more confident in content creating and all the things. And back then, when we first spoke, it wasn't part of the process, because then I don't know if I'd met Mia then and we'd started, or this was prior to that, but I'd love to hear your journey this far and then we'll get into what UGC has done for you, I suppose For sure.

Speaker 2:

So it was like right at the right time when you and me met and yeah, for some reason I was on TikTok and I saw your stuff and I'm like, oh, you actually really resonate with me and I was in a spot with my business. So just a bit of a background context I'm a graphic designer by trade, been in the industry for about 25, 28 years um, that makes me sound so old, but um, and then when I uh met Simon, like met my husband, I decided, um, like I moved back to the farm and decided to continue on with a bit of a freelance business. So when my third child was born, I decided to learn WordPress and web design and that type of thing, because a lot of my clients were asking me to help them out with their websites. So, and I knew a little bit of it, I'd learned some stuff in trade school using some other software and yeah then yeah, cut a long story short I was just at a bit of a 2020. I decided to. I wasn't quite sure. I think I was really burnt out with a lot of my jobs and projects and clients and life and farm life and kids.

Speaker 2:

So I decided at that time like 2020, that I was going to go and flip and do some artwork which I really wanted to do at the time. My soul was needing something nurturing, so I went and threw myself into some mandala artwork, doing some drawing, taught myself how to do that, and people started wanting my artwork. So I started selling that online and then I was kind of getting a little. You know well, what do I do? Next type thing, like things. Clients were coming back to me for design work, for web work. So then I was like, okay, I'm just going to kind of sit here. And that's when um Kristen came along and yeah, we were discussing what to do next, um, and yeah, the Hive Hub Collective um was actually just coming, you know, into fruition and yeah, so I, um, I don't think I got on the first wave of like people coming in, but it was the next one and yeah, I think I only missed it by a couple of weeks and then I, yeah, came in.

Speaker 2:

So I've been with the Hive Hub Collective since day dot really, and then through that journey, so it was one day when I was doing some artwork and listening to you diving into the membership and doing a few things and I'm like UGC, okay, what is this? And it got me really excited because when I started doing my artwork and stuff like that, I never wanted to show myself on camera. I never wanted to. I could show the process, but not myself, and I never wanted to put myself out there, um, as such.

Speaker 2:

And then when, yeah, I heard about UGC, I dived into the little mini course and started doing that and I'm actually do you know what? I think I can do this, um and so, over, um, yeah, christmas last year, I just knuckled down and got straight into it, yeah, learnt, dove into the UGC world and, you know, probably consumed so much content than what I was actually putting out. But, yeah, it was probably like a year ago now that I was like, okay, now I'm going to start my Instagram page, I'm going to you know. So it has been a slow journey for me, but it's been a wonderful process in all of that. So, yeah, yeah, so I guess it's. And UGC is another tool that I can add to my toolbox to offer already clients as well.

Speaker 1:

So it's a bit it's like a another creative skill that you've got in your toolbox now, where you can feel more confident promoting your own stuff. You know, you've got that video editing experience now and you just bring it in and it just kind of serves you. It keeps serving you along your journey and I find I keep getting inbounds and I'm like, oh yeah, I'll do that one and it kind of sparks your creativity again and you get paid for it and it's a.

Speaker 2:

It's a pretty awesome skill to have it is, it really is mia, and it's not just um, like the, the skills and you know, learning about the software and that type of thing. It's actually, um, a bit of an internal process. Uh, for me it was personally, um, so to actually um, you know, give me the confidence, or to find the confidence. I think it was to like put myself out there in front of whoever, um for another brand, um, when I would not do that for my own brand, if you know, like, you know, selling my artwork and that type of thing. But it seems easier to be able to sell somebody else's product that I really love. So, not that I don't love my own products, but it just, yeah, there was something about it.

Speaker 1:

And so, like, what I love is that you've touched on that, because that's something that Mia and I try to articulate to people in terms of this isn't just kind of doing the UGC course and then getting paid by brands. This is going to transform the way you create content, transform the way you think about yourself, transform your confidence. And you know, what I love the most is those that are listening that haven't heard before. So I'm also a little bit rural as well, probably not as rural as you, kylie, but what's really nice is that we're women that live on property. That you know, kylie, but what's really nice is that we're women that live on property that you know I could go and get a nine to five, but to do that is a pretty big, hectic effort for me to do that and organize the kids and there's not enough kind of local that would suit me right now. So this is such an incredible thing to add, like you guys have said, to the toolbox of what we've got, and bringing that confidence to light in a way that you know it's really easy to say to people. Get confident on camera, like just hit record, and then just build that confidence, like I've done workshops around that Like that is absolutely possible.

Speaker 1:

But all of a sudden, if a brand pays you money, you create a piece of content. They say, wow, that's amazing, thank you so much. Your confidence level skyrockets because you know you've done a good job. You've like. The dopamine hit from that is so much bigger than someone liking your post. So I'm so glad you touched on that because I want people to hear that, that that's part of your transformation, and when someone's paying you to do it, you're stepping out of your comfort zone because you're getting paid for it. Therefore, you do a better job, you want it to look good and you know you just wherever. If it's for yourself, you're like, oh, that'll do, or I won't show my face, or you sort of step back a bit.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely yeah. Yeah. And you, you've really hit the nail on the head, like honestly, you, you kind of it's like a little. You see a lot of people telling you know how much success they've had, like really quickly, with UGC, but it wasn't really like that for me. Um, I struggled, uh, quite a bit and it's probably been in like the last probably three months that I have really gone. No, I can do this, and you know, and when just mind shift happened for me, um, that's when I started like the inbounds just started coming in and I was actually saying no to more people because I kind of set my own boundaries as well. Because, yeah, like on TikTok there was. You know, I've never had a, I don't really like TikTok very much and you know I'm 46 in a couple of weeks, so that was really hard for me to navigate um that platform. So, but I only got inbounds through Instagram. So, um, tiktok was just feral men, you know, messaging me. So and Keanu Reeves, if you're listening, like you can message me.

Speaker 1:

So I've been getting lots of yeah we've all had our fair of sugar daddies that are like we'll look after you, baby. I'm like I'd love to, but just not this month exactly. But, um, I really would like to. Before we go too far. I'd like to go back to you said the struggle, like can we talk about what that was for you and highlight it for anybody that might be listening, because some people have instant success and some people have that struggle, but I'd love to hear what yours was and how you got through that.

Speaker 2:

I think for me, it was about the brands that were coming to me and whether I was, you know, really fully ready to endorse them. Knowing, you know, once you get into UGC and you start learning what happens, so your face is going to be on you know, once you get into UGC and you start learning what happens, so your face is going to be on, you know, people's social media, it's going to be every you know on things. So for a while and yeah, I so, to be completely honest, I never told anybody about my Instagram. I never, you know, shared it with any of my friends or my family. It was only my close, like husband and kids, that knew what was going on for quite some months. And then a couple of friends cottoned on what was going on and saw me on Instagram. They're like, hey and little thing. And now that used to bother me. At the start I was like, oh no, no, I don't want you to see me, but now it's okay and I think, yeah, there was just a mind shift, I think within that.

Speaker 2:

But the struggle of being okay, I have this product Now I've got to like you'd get the product, yes, you'd say yes to the collab, and then you'd be like, okay, so I've got the product, but oh, damn, now I've got to you. So I've got the product, but oh, damn, now I've got to. You know, I've got a script. I've got to edit and I've got to. You know, it felt really overwhelming to me with all the other stuff that I had to do. You know, it was just felt overwhelming at the time. And then there was a little bit of space, and, you know, for me in my life, and I'm like, no, I'm going to really, you know, give this a shot. So, okay, what can I do? Um, that is going to stop. That is going to help me, that is going to help me to make the process easier and less overwhelming.

Speaker 2:

Um, so, and it was just kind of practice. So, you know, and I'm a designer but I procrastinate on a lot of things, I like everything to be perfect, so and I know that about myself, so that's where the hardness came in, because I, you know, I wanted it to be perfect for the brand and it took me hours to feel. You know, I'd spend a whole day just bloody, filming stuff for one, you know, one product and yeah, and then editing. So I had to learn that too, I had to learn that skill because, um yeah, I wasn't really skilled up on that. So, um yeah, but you know those things you can and scripting and that type of thing you can kind of get help, like with chat, gbt and your agents, which, yeah, which can really help so and be less overwhelming yeah, yeah, it is a process, isn't?

Speaker 1:

it's a whole big learning process and some people you know, who might have been creating content a lot beforehand, kind of pick it up really quickly and just like boom, boom, boom, and then others are just like it. It takes time, it's like anything, a new skill, just like digital marketing, like how to set up a funnel and do all that. It's like it's. It's a process until it gets to the point where it's kind of just second nature. You're like, oh, yeah, the product's in. I've done my script on ChatGPT or whatever. It's helped me and I've got this sorted. So it definitely is a process.

Speaker 1:

But once you get to that point, I think with UGC, momentum is a big thing too. So once you start getting momentum and you're doing more jobs and the inbounds are coming in, yes, burnout and overwhelm can happen if you've got too many jobs going at once, plus your life and your job and everything. But that momentum also increases the confidence like, oh, that brand's coming back for more content or the brands are finding me I'm not having to pitch out there. So that can be. And I think content creation, too, is like a self-discovery journey as well.

Speaker 2:

You're learning about yourself what you're good at what you're not good at and all that stuff.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, and we're seeing inside the membership too, everyone's got a different journey with UGC, but the mind shift. When that changes, shit starts to happen and we see it with so many people. It's that mind shift change that you gotta get over the cringy part and people seeing you and yeah, just having that mindset where things are going to come, to me it's going to happen. It's going to come to me, and then we see it start to change yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

And I think when, know, I was worried about some of the types of brands that you know I might've been working for, and then I'm like, oh, am I? You know, why am I? Why am I doing this again? So it was kind of bringing me back to my why, like you know, it's okay, yes, it's great to, you know, subsidize my income to bring a little bit more money in, but why, you know, I'm just peeling back those layers, okay. So do I really, you know, do I really like this brand? And it was actually just going back and researching some of the brands too, mia, and you know what they really okay.

Speaker 2:

So where did they? How did they start? And do I endorse you know them, so you can align with them? Yeah, and like that's, that is what I'm looking for is, yeah, I needed to be able to know that I can align with them and yeah, I'm not just some brands like to just send you scripts and, to, you know, do scripts and voiceovers and that type of thing, and you know, I think that's okay to get your confidence up and to do those little bits of work for brands. But then you kind of find your groove and you kind of start, you know, um finding your essence in UGC, I think. And yeah, you can put the boundaries up, say no and no, and when you realize who, what brand you're going to work for, they kind of just come naturally to you. Um, it's like, yeah, you're a bit of a I don't know energy radiates, you know. It kind of comes back to you. So that's what I think anyway, bit woo-woo, but yeah.

Speaker 2:

We love that.

Speaker 1:

We're all about magnetic content, and I think what's really nice about this and again you just kind of nailed it without saying it is the other part I love about UGC and I love about watching our creators is you learn a skill set called marketing without having to do marketing. So you know, there's people out there creating digital products, they're creating PDFs, they're creating their short courses. They're doing all of that and are finding it difficult of how to market themselves, how to brand themselves, how to build that when, when you do UGC, you have to learn how to understand a brand. You have to learn how to understand their audience, their messaging, how what their return on investment is going to be and how you're going to create that content that's going to convert. So you're learning marketing skills that you may not have if you just created a PDF and you were trying to sell it to somebody that way.

Speaker 1:

So that's why it's part of our fast track funnel. That's why it's part of our membership is come in, get paid for content, get paid to get better at content. Therefore, you're going to get better at marketing and all those things that then you can take into whichever pathway you choose from there. It just makes so much sense that, from a marketing branding standpoint, I love seeing our creators actually turn to that skill set without even knowing, and all of a sudden they've got that skill set that they weren't going to have before if they just created that PDF. So I like, I really want to highlight that for people, because it's you're going to learn something, because you're going to get pushed out of your comfort zone and that's the only place we're going to learn.

Speaker 2:

And absolutely and pushed out of your comfort zone, is one of the things that I think at the start of this year, um, I really wanted to do for myself, so I was noticing lots of things. I know a lot of people in the group are um, perimenopausal, so like hive hub collective. So we um for me at the time and so we you know I was learning a lot about that for myself, but you know, going on down the little rabbit hole of that as well. But I'm like, no, I really want to get out of my comfort zone here and I'm gonna do something for myself and I'm just gonna, yeah, I'm just gonna do it. So yeah, and then when that one you, when that first brand pays you for something, it's like holy shit, like I can actually do this, like, okay, bring it on. Yeah, what next? You know, yeah, it's exciting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're so excited to bring more women of our age in the 40 plus into this arena, because there's brands out there screaming for this demographic because their product aligns more with that age group and you know a lot of women in their 40s are having great success because these brands like, oh my God, perfect demographic, let's snap her up, because this product is meant for women like her. So do you find that in your inbox, brands that are coming to you with their products are sort of more aligned to, you know, the 40 plus age group, or is it kind of random products?

Speaker 2:

um, sometimes it's random products, but then you I'll get a week where it's all that. Oh okay, yes, I know what you know. Yes, it's all the 40 plus, you know, women, um yeah, so it's really interesting how, how that happens. So, yeah, yeah, but a lot of them.

Speaker 1:

I was just gonna say so. If somebody is listening to this right now and they're curious, and she's a woman 40 plus or, you know, I might even be 30, doesn't matter, but she's listening to it and thinking, well, that's great, but there's no way, like I, just I couldn't do it, I couldn't show up on camera, I don't I'm, you know all the things, the overthinking. What would you say to her now?

Speaker 2:

Say stop the overthinking like, step out of your comfort zone and give yourself a challenge, like it's just your own little challenge, and just to increase that confidence and to give you a bit of a self-purpose as such. So that was one of the things that really, you know, helped me. It was like, oh, I feel like I have this purpose now. I feel like I've. You know, you get a little bit of a, you know, a little string in your step like, oh, when you go to the mailbox and there's brands and products that you need to do stuff for. But, you know, pulling back those layers, it's deeper than that, it's a lot deeper than that. So it's about the journey and finding yourself as a woman. You know, after kids, you know you're doing the lunchbox thing, you're doing the bath, you know all of that chaos, but this is just for you and it's yeah, this personal journey of growth, I think, and stepping into your power. That's yeah, stepping into your power, because that's it's quite a powerful journey. That's awesome.

Speaker 1:

I love that. Yeah, it's not just about the money, it's that journey of finding out about yourself. Because if I used to think, oh, I'm just an ambo, like if people said to me, oh, what do you do, I'm an ambo, and now they ask me, what do I do? You kind of got to rethink and just be who you are now. You're not just a job. You kind of yeah, it's strange.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Yeah, I totally get that, mia, and before for me it was like oh, you know, I've got my design business online, that type of thing, um, but I don't know, I feel like people took that for granted a little bit. You know, they were not wanting to. I was, you know, friends with lots of people not wanting to pay. You know, oh, she'll just do this for me and whatever else.

Speaker 2:

So I don't think I really respected that either until, kind of now it's like now, yeah, stepping into my power, like if you want to work with me, then I'm going to charge. This is my rates, this is what I charge. So having that mind shift for me is just, yeah, it's been huge in that way. So, whereas before I'd be scared to send an invoice, um, I'd be scared to price my artwork, I would be because and there's lots, of, lots of stuff about, you know, finding your worth and that type of thing but truly you have to, yeah, you have to go through it to feel it, to know it, if you know what I mean. So, um, yeah, you have to be.

Speaker 1:

You know I love that because you have to be. You know I love that because you have to be in those conversations, like brands come from it from a different standpoint in terms of they need the content and they see a quality in you that they need, which is fantastic. Now some brands hey, I was gonna say the content is worth a lot to the brands because it can make them a lot of money.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it's one of those things, that things that you know, if they come back and give you an offer, you can always say no and then they go and find someone else and their process start again. So that negotiation is there where I so resonate with what you say from a graphic design standpoint, because that's where I started and I still do some consulting and it's this very, very I don't know if it's built into us at like design school or something, but there's this really big thing. That's like you know what you shouldn't really be paid for being creative. You're just lucky that you're creative like that, like we don't see it, the skillset that we have that is incredible part of the process with building a brand.

Speaker 1:

Where this UGC side of it there are so many people that are fearful of getting on camera, that don't know how to sell a thing, that don't know how to talk about anything authentically and brands need content and all of a sudden there's this beautiful relationship that's happening, that I love what you've said in terms of stepping into your power and I think that's what we want most for the membership and you know, seeing the Facebook community talk and hearing their stories and when people are having their days of, I can't do it.

Speaker 1:

I haven't got any inbounds and all of a sudden, oh now I've got too many and you know it's. It's real life, real women actually making a difference for themselves personally, not financially, like financial wins are beautiful, but this is a really personal journey that I think you know hits me or an eye the most is when we get a DM from someone who's like I got my first brand deal and we're like holy shit, like we've helped change somebody's life because we've given them, maybe, the confidence to do that. So I I love that. It's so much bigger than a paycheck. This is, this is something that could change your life from a internal standpoint, moving forward, the confidence you could gain, especially as women 40 plus like I think it's just such an incredible journey.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, and it is, yeah, stepping into your power and being able to. And I know that, yeah, you know you lose yourself when in stuff and you're doing stuff for everybody else, but this is just that personal journey that you're on yourself. So, and you know, when there's a week of no inbounds, does that really matter, because I'm like, thank god, now I can catch up on. You know I can catch up on all the washing and you know like I run the farm with my husband, so it's you know, all the admin side of stuff and and so know I think I'm grateful for those times, so that, yeah, I can just, you know, yeah, catch up on stuff and the chaos around the home. So yeah, Love it.

Speaker 1:

And so what is, what's Kylie's plan for 2025? I'd love to know what the what the vision is for you.

Speaker 2:

I really would like to. I've had a few people dming me and asking me how I started this and um my journey and everything else. So I'm wanting to start, you know, a little uh, mini course I'm hoping to put out soon also, um just for free, about, you know, 40 plus women wanting to start this journey, and you know, farmers, wives, um, those types of that's my niche. So, um also wanting to help other people um get their portfolio together, um from a graphic design point of view, because I've seen some really I don't know about you, kristen, but I, terrible ones say it, terrible ones say it.

Speaker 1:

I'm comfortable with you saying they're terrible.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes thank you, and you know I'm like I could help you do that. I could so help you. You know, just tweak a few little things and it would be awesome. So I just, but I want to help them, yeah, give them the power to be able to start so, um, on their journey, because, um, yeah, that's what I'd like to do. So I think, yeah, a few more brand deals would be nice, and you know, but I'm not wanting to, I like the balance as it is at the moment. So, you know, there's a week that can be full on and then a week that's not full on, and that is amazing. So the, you know, just having the freedom, yeah, so, but my life allows for that too, being a farmer's wife. So, if that makes sense, without sounding.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome. You found that balance, and sometimes it's good when you get to the point where you can be a bit picky and you'll be like, oh no, I don't really want to work with that brand, I'll just wait for that product that I really resonate with. And you know, you can get really niche as well and just do farm products or like you can just have a lot of fun with it and opportunities seem to pop up randomly when you're not expecting them to.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, randomly, when you're not absolutely they. Yeah, yeah, they really do. And I think, um, a lot of people are on, you know, start going on to other platforms like fiverr and that type of thing, which I haven't, um, delved into yet. So that could be somewhere that I go. But I'm kind of, yeah, but do I really want to be putting my head into all of the different platforms? You know, the Upwork, the Fiverr it's a lot of work I, you know, would find. So keeping up with that stuff. So, yeah, I just feel like having my portfolio out there. I've got a couple of agencies that I work for and they have actually reached out to me, not me reaching out to them. So that was really cool, yeah, yeah. So I'm kind of liking it at the you know, liking that how it is, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

And sometimes, you know members in the community, sometimes this is just a supplement to the family wage. Some of the women are like, no, I'm all in, this is my full-time gig and so what's really nice about it is it can be. It can be. You know, I've got one every week and that's just a beautiful supplement to the family income, where some people might, you know, put everything in and we've got women having five-figure months and turning away brands, so you can pick and choose where you want to sit, and you know from farm life, there's always something to be done. So if you can bring in a little bit, that's for you, that makes you happy and then be able to go. Well, cool, I've done that. That's taken me a couple of hours this week. We've got paid. Now I can spend three, four days, whatever it is doing.

Speaker 1:

The other part like I think that's where balance and freedom come into play is when we can actually, you know, like even mia, even Mia, the other day she had her son at prep and she took him in for like the hour and a half that you've got to do. How do working mothers do it Like? How do you say to your boss hey, look, ps can't come in for the day because I've got an hour and a half to take my son to his first like prep thing. Like where we've got that freedom if we keep doing this? Which where we've got that freedom if we keep doing this, which is just insanely amazing.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, absolutely, like I've not missed a sports day and you know, I've been lucky enough to be able to have that freedom to be able to go and do that because I'm a mum first. I'm a mum first Even though my eldest is 15, I'm still a mum first. So, you know, doing the basketball runs doing, you know all that and we don't live. You know, doing the basketball runs doing, you know all that and we don't live. You know, like, it's not just around the corner for us. So there's lots of time in the car and whatever else, but I would not have it any other way and, yeah, it's really great. So I, you know I've not had a five-figure month, but I'm scared to actually do that because that would like wipe me out personally. Yeah, you'd resent Four-figure. Yeah, yeah, that's right, but four-figure, definitely. That has happened and it can be done. It can be done. But for me, hey, if I can pay for my groceries for one week, you know that's amazing too yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know, and it's contributing to my family, which is a great energy balance. So, yeah, which is really really good. So thank you for showing me UGC, you know introducing me.

Speaker 1:

Thank you for being part of our world. I mean we just love the Hive and the community that is in there and I think you know what mia has certainly done in terms of really shaping the ai part of the ugc is in creating these ai agents around the ugc process. I think what did you say me the other day, you use them for a job and it took you like two hours to do like a job. That would have taken you a few days. Yeah, yeah and, yeah and.

Speaker 1:

I did extra for the brand. I gave him like three scripts to choose from, where usually I would just do one, and like it's so, so helpful. And that's another thing. Like you don't want to get to the point where you're resenting UGC because you're so busy with all the admin and the scripting. So what can we do to make the job easier?

Speaker 2:

So than we do to make the job easier. So it's just like, oh awesome, boom, boom, boom, let's go. So absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I think. Um, I was thinking about something else that I really wanted to say then when you were talking, but I very metaphors yeah totally, totally. Yeah, I know where's my brain at.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah, um you'll think of it later.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I will, I'll message you, um, oh, that's what it was.

Speaker 2:

It's um, it's the community that also really really helps, like helps me personally, because sometimes it can actually get bloody lonely out here, um, on the farm.

Speaker 2:

So, you know, I don't know how many days I would go walking with my dog and you guys would be in my ears and you know, on the podcast and I'm like, oh, my goodness, you know, yeah, and it's just yeah, getting into the community, and once you're kind of in there, you meet other women and you resonate with them so much and then, you know it, you are dming each other and it's like, oh, my friend online, you know, and my husband, oh, you know, yeah, so it's um, it's also yeah, that and that really I thrive on that.

Speaker 2:

So, um, yeah, so you kind of have your own little, you know personal, you know friends that you talk to, and that just makes a hell of a lot of difference as well, so you can bounce off each other, um, yeah, which is really good so, and everyone's so helpful, yeah, you know, yeah our age group too yeah it's really hard to be in this world in our at our age because a lot of sometimes family and friends don't really understand it, so you can't really talk to them about it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah so, yeah it is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, kylie, we won't keep you any longer, but we cannot thank you enough for coming in and talking to us and sharing your story, because I think what you did so beautifully was articulate things that Mia and I can say, but it doesn't resonate when we know what is possible.

Speaker 1:

But to hear it from someone that came from kind of not knowing and then coming through that, that transformation, I think for us it's just so humbling because we know this works. But when we hear stories like that, we're like, oh yeah, this is, this is. This is why we do this, because we want to change the lives of people that might say to themselves I don't, I don't think that's for me, I can't do it like I'm just no bullshit, you can and just take one step. It doesn't matter if you're someone that jumps in and turns around in 24 hours or someone like yourself that just took that little bit longer, but in doing that, you've just been able to build something in yourself that will continue to grow, and I think that's been one of the best parts about our chat, so thank you so much for taking the time.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much for having me on and thank you for everything like your teachings, the education and the learning, and it's yeah, keeps me connected. So thank you, Pleasure pleasure, We've got a podcast.

Speaker 1:

We've got so many good ones too.